Jul 112010

I honestly have no idea what Poll number we’re on, since the last poll we did was Poll #25, and the Poll before that was Poll #21. Just checked and this was Poll #26, Rest in peace 22~24, I have no idea what happened to you.

Anyway!

Here is the result of the last poll that we put up:

“Are you excited for the new character?

* Yes (80%, 1,691 Votes)
* I wanted something else -.- (14%, 295 Votes)
* No (6%, 115 Votes)

Total Voters: 2,101″

Dio looks like he has some positive results overall, which is a good sign for any content KOG is pushing out. Personally I don’t know how I feel about Dio’s release, which is why I didn’t vote. It brings a lot of strategy and synergy to the game, and picking your 5 skills to perfect fit with each other seems like a really cool style. My main problem, however, is how behind all the other characters are in comparison to him, since they’ll continue to strictly use z, and can’t use a 1 bar immediately during combos without a lot of prior knowledge of how to do so. Strictly put, this means Dio can literally use a 3 bar with no problem during his combo :P

Ok that’s enough blabbering, I’ll go ahead and put up the next poll, which is…

“What do you think of the new ASDFG System?”

There’s a lot more to the System that I cannot fit into actual poll answers so if you wish to go more in-depth on the subject please feel free to leave a post here explaining your views.

Thank you everyone for reading and I hope you’re all having a great weekend,

Cow

72 Responses to “ Poll #26 Results ”

  1. Kiro says:

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    Hmm… i think it’s pretty cool….make some changes in the game is always welcome :D …-cough-except if the mess up with Lire and Amy >:( -cough-
    No one was waiting they add this “elsword skill system”…KOG is sure full of surprises.*-*

  2. Dyoku says:

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    I… dont like it.

    Grand chase has always been unique.. And one of the most enjoyable things about it, to me, was how simple it was.

    I started NAGC back in open beta, when all they had was the three girls, not even a cash shop..
    It was so simple. Run, attack with z, charge skills, unleash them.

    Then the characters started to get more complicated, what with jin having a bar to charge, and sieg having one as well… and lets not get started on how complicated mari is..

    Then skill tree’s came and turned the simple characters into complex things with 20 million different key combos..

    Now this….

    I actually quit grand chase due to… i dont know.. change? It’s just not the same game i fell in love with 2 years ago. I mean i know games are supposed to update and change.. that’s all cool. But just.. This is like a totally different game now.. :/

    tl;dr, i dont like it…

    • 0megaZer0 says:

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      Yes you have a point…but sometimes a game like this needs to rival up with the latest games, so adding more variety means more fun!!!

    • Chromeheart says:

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      Change happens, whether you like it or not. It’s up to you how to interpret it.

      In my opinion, you’re interpreting it all wrong. If you want to stick to smashing Z, then play with those type of characters and don’t touch the more complex ones. Don’t make it more complicated than it should be.

    • Anon says:

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      On the other hand, if the game stuck solely to just Z you can’t get anywhere. Just look at the first job changes adding to the strategic difference. Xbow has the aerial down Z arrow rain. Spearman has the mash Z which basically puts up a wall of hit boxes to any oncomers and if the nemy gets caught you can charge mp while throwing jabs. Alchemist added quite a bit too with indirect, timed attacks. Ronan gave you >><Z. If you just limit it to a combo, jump attakcs and 3 bars of mp skills. the game gets stale.

      That;s why they add all kinds of new things with each job. It adds to the strategic value, and yet the first simpler jobs can be used just right to beat the newer versatile ones.

    • Kenzor says:

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      I will never understand how having less variety is better…

      • Chromeheart says:

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        I’m just surprised how many positive ratings that post got.

        Unless this guy’s sock-puppeting.

        • Dyoku says:

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          I’m also suprised how many positive ratings it got.. o.o
          I expected to get flamed massively for that.. cause you know.. posting your oppinion on the internet is like… wrong.

          On a side note.. my period key just fell off my laptop… ugh…

          • Anonymous says:

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            I thumbed it up, even though I disagree. Personally I like the changes, but I do think you have a point :)

          • Anonymous says:

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            I say we down thumb him until it turns yellow, to show everyone what happens to this sockpuppetier.

          • Dyoku says:

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            Lol i dont know what sockpuppet means… my only assumption from teh context used is that your suggesting i made various accounts and clicked like on it repeatedly?

            Yeah, because i have that much free time (or patience)….
            Regardless, think what you like. o.o

          • Anonymous says:

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            Nah, don’t worry about it. It just shows how many people go to this blog, moreso the people actually taking the time to read comments.
            And judging by the poll, it seems people are not in agreement on this matter, so it’s not surprising your post got many positive ratings.

  3. OxyActionMax says:

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    • Chromeheart says:

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      Stick to the characters that don’t have the complexity. Don’t quit because of other characters. ._.

  4. DaNoHeX says:

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  5. NovaZero says:

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    You can activate skills with a push of the button now?

  6. Leviant says:

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    I don’t like it

    its so far from the game concept of Grandchase. Its like removing concept of getting MP countered.

    • Chromeheart says:

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      Think of it this way:

      When you fight a Dio, you can combo hi–
      Wait, you can still charge his AP bar with Z, right?
      …He just might be able to counter. :O

      • Kenzor says:

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        Yeah, he can still charge his AP bar by holding Z.

        But I think I know what Leviant is getting at, with other characters they have to run away for a little to charge up to 3 bars and there’s also a chance they’ll get hit; accidently losing all 3 bars, but with Dio, he doesn’t need to worry about accidently losing AP.

        • Anonymous says:

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          If it’s slightly the same as Elsword’s gameplay (which it kinda sounds like) I don’t think that’s entirely true… I’ve been countered LOTS of times while playing Elsword, even though I just have to press 1 button to launch a 3-bar skill. It’s like those annoying lag-grabs.. except they’re not grabs, they’re normal attacks that just cancel out my skill :/

  7. Maiggy_san says:

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    I would disagree to those negative this about GC being complex, I think it’s a good thing that we have new features and new contents such as Dio’s gameplay. I love gc because of it;s updates on jobs and characters and all, i quit playing other online games because of the “click to attack” which is really lame .but yes, I do agree about GC being unique with the zzzzz gameplay, but I believe we should be open to new things,back then I also thought that complex game play is a troublesome but now, im loving them and I really think it will test your “skills” on wielding them. That’s also the reason why I am excited about ST on PH^^ [the gms said we'll have it after sieghart xD]

  8. Dio says:

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    • Kenzor says:

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      100% they forgot? They have lives you know.

      • Dio says:

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        I know…. no ones complaining…. just curious

        • Kenzor says:

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          You’re labelling them with a baseless assumption that you think is fact and you also said you’re frustrated.

          So curiosity isn’t all that’s going on here…

          • Dio says:

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            … no all Im saying is cow posted something bout a video that was sure to be posted ( again from what cow said) and its kinda getting annoying kenzor when u twist the meaning if my words.

          • Chromeheart says:

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            Dio, you said you were eager, excited and frustrated. You also said you were 100% sure they forgot. High expectations much?

            Kenzor’s favor on this one: you did have a baseless assumption that they for sure forgot about a Dio video. And yes, that Dio video is sure to be posted. Because Dio is a new character, with new features, and a new style. Why would they miss that in the first place, unless the site crashed or something tragic happened?

            And when did Kenzor twist your words? :S

  9. Darmichuyaya says:

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    Wouldn’t it be like frustrating to have a very rig character to battle with in PVP.
    I didn’t really like the concept they put into DIo which is I think may put the other characters aside. -_-

    • Chromeheart says:

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      You gotta remember that there’s still that ?’s in the 5th slot of ST’s. Maybe when all’s said and done, 5th jobs will be more up to date with GC’s new and expanding standards, so don’t give up on the other earlier characters just yet (even though the wait of that goal will be indeed long…)

      • Darmichuyaya says:

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        Well we don’t really know if the 5th jobs would be able to extend to the current standards of the game. So much variety has been added to only one character, while the other jobs of the previous characters has already been implemented limited only to z skill bars, Dio on the contrary already has advantages at his first job what more to his next jobs in the future.

  10. Chromeheart says:

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    I haven’t been too excited about Dio much, either. I don’t know the reason why, but he seems more fan-based than any other character made thus far. Maybe it’s the trend of “Oh, I’m a demon and I don’t like Humans” sorta thing that’s going on with Mr. Unsmiley over here. Plus, the empowered arm he has isn’t too creative either, but oh well.

    His new AP system thing I’m not too worried about, unless you plan to PvP a lot. Of course, Dios are gonna be everywhere, already ready for his next 3 jobs to come out because he starts at level 30 (but what do you expect? He’s hangin’ out at Archimedia for some reason anyways, I think)

    I do speculate, however, that since he came out with his (very small) ST, then that means his 2nd will be also. I’m guessing that the 2nd job STs are gonna be coming out soon, just so the other characters can keep up with Dio. Good times, KOG. Good times. Still, I’m waiting for Jin’s, ever so patienly…

  11. Anonymous says:

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    i dont like it
    i dont want other character to disappear. and some unskilled cash player will use dio to run wild
    now everyone can be pro
    and how other should fight him

  12. Maiggy_san says:

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    OK, so we can say that some OLD characters[yes, elisis is getting really old =,=] would be left out if they dont update them so, I would agree that the upcoming 2nd job ST would be something like Dio’s gameplay, that would pretty much balance the whole thing. But Mari and Jin’s ST would be the same with the first set of ST [not the dio type]…

  13. SawadaTsuna says:

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    i really think that GC should just stick to the unique of holding Z to use skill not press ASDFG to use skill cause to us, Elsword players we dont like it because it is kinda rip off dont u guys think so?

    • Kenzor says:

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      It isn’t a rip off if it came from the same developers…but rather it’s a recycled idea and as I’m also an Elsword player, I don’t like the idea of more recycled ideas from Elsword either.

    • Anonymous says:

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      Totally agree to this as a Elsword player. I like playing GC because of the z system but now it’ll be similar to Elsword which kind of defeats my purpose of playing GC.

  14. Ashchu says:

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    IMO… It’s OK. It adds variety, but it kind of makes Dio OP. But then again, he has no way to fight efficiently but A S D F G, which is why it’s completely ‘OP’ when it comes to using it, since you can ONLY counter if you want to, and possibly no way else to reduce AP gain.
    I don’t mind Dio, but I can already see the ‘3bar at start of match’ happening. OP and annouying, but it’s a different way of fighting nonetheless.
    Though I honestly don’t support the whole leeching off Elsword for new ideas. Regardless of it being their game or not, they should keep GC, GC, and Elsword, as Elsword.

    • Chromeheart says:

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      Whoever said he’d start out with his AP fully charged?

      • Ashchu says:

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        Did I ever say that?
        I said he can ‘3bar’, not recharge AP in the first second.
        Please watch Kowiz’s PvP to see what I mean.

        • Chromeheart says:

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          Direct quote right here: ‘3bar at start of match’
          And I have watched Kowiz’s PvP.

          Really, it wouldn’t be any different from a sudden 3rd bar from an opponent while you’re chasing him/her. Sides, if Dio willingly counters out of a combo, he can’t use his skills for 10 seconds, whiich gives the other characters a small window of opportunity to combo Dio and let him counter his AP away to where he can’t counter anymore. Unless that Dio has an annoying pet, of course…

          I bet what you’d be annoyed at is that he can combo right into a 3rd bar-esque skill. Is that what you meant? I think Spearman can do something similar to that when someone’s caught up in a flurry of stabs.

          • Ashchu says:

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            I’m not annoyed at anything, I’ve yet to know how this character works. I’d give real opinions once I try him out.
            Anyway, I see your point. I doubt he’d be OP, but I can see ways on how to exploit his abilities. Still, I’ve yet to know.

  15. Anonymous says:

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    Although there’s nothing wrong with changes in the game, I just didn’t like the idea of KOG recycling ides from Elsword just as Kenzor says.

    Dio’s ASDFG skills are cool and all but just the thought of instantly whpping out a 3mp skill without holding the z button gives him a very big edge compared to the other characters.

    I wonder how they’ll balance the game this time around…

  16. Reptoid says:

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    Not trying to be rude, but if you guys dont like it you dont have to play him.

  17. SilverDust says:

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    Actually im pretty sure he’s gonna be the biggest noob magnet ever saw on GC so im planning on the 1st day of release tht there will be Dio’s everywhere of course and just for tht matter i wont get him or if i do.. il go with the GP mish which is always more rewarding [ mentally ] than all of those cash mish ¬_¬… and for those pvp advantages or not.. well its obvious that there will be alot of those Run / Skill people and tht it will unbalance the game because of the non-charging system which means he cant be countered but only if he wants to…. But im not a hater to be honest i found the character design cool pretty much… but for other characters there will clearly be a new lvl to climb because you’l need to be extra carefull when fighting those guys :/… Anyway for me.. im just planning to go and kick their ass :D

    [ NAGC - Jin player ]

  18. Disc says:

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    Great, Dio decides to make my controller set up even worse! (I’ll manage though. owo)

    Anyway, regardless, the ASDFG skill setup is a very innovative way of utilising a new character. Every character that KoG have created have some sort of unique-ness to them, even the original three. With regards to PvP and the ASDFG, it’s the player’s fault if they happened to get countered while charging a skill. Most people use it strategically, and no doubts Dio players are able to as well.

    The non-delay skills that Dio can use are just like any extra skill another character can use, take for example Polaris’ delayed bolt or her diagonal bolt requires MP. The ASDFG skills add a combo factor to Dio’s gamestyle, and even though they use AP up and cannot be countered, other skills similar these skills can’t be either.

    For the delay skills and PvP, there’s always lag-grabs or ’strategic dodging’ (or plain ol’ running), which shouldn’t be a problem. Bear in mind, it seems considerably harder for Dio to gain AP during PvP which balances it out. (If it’s like Elsword, you can still be countered during skills if you time it correctly.)

    Finally, it’s actually nice to see some aspects of Elsword in Grand Chase, as they are ‘improvements’ which KoG have seen fit to add onto GC. I would not mind if GC became a bit more like Elsword, but still kept it’s originality (no grabs in PvP? <3). Also, food for thought. Elsword was exactly like GC in it's skill style before they added the dungeon improvements. KoG have the right to improve the game as they see fit, and I'd welcome any improvements that they are willing to patch in for us.

    (Long post, tl;dr: ASDFG is cool but also balanced.)

    • Kenzor says:

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      Back when Elsword was still very similar to GC, it actually made me and friends (and possibly others) stop playing GC for Elsword because Elsword was basically GC minus everything that was bad and adding in much better things. That isn’t good from a business perspective or from the perspective of the players.

      Now that Elsword has branched away from GC, for me (possibly others too), I can happily play both games as they feel like different games now. That is much better for both KoG and me.

      Now if GC starts to become Elsword…. chances are one of the games will be played less since the games will be too similar.

      • Kenzor says:

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        summing up what I said, too much recycled ideas from different games is bad.

        • Chromeheart says:

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          Well, you have to remember, Kenzor, that for now it’s ONLY one character (Dio) that has this similarity to Elsword. Just like how they only have one character that can transform (Ryan).

          Who knows what the other 2 characters KOG will come out with next. My only hope is that one of those two is Egyptian-themed, for Alcubra(Atum)

        • Acid says:

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          let me tell you something even though esllswor and grandchase are created by the same company + the new item system was from elsword idea

  19. Anonymous. says:

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    Everyone here is complaining about the mp counter unbalance it will do.

    lrn2combo.dont be dependant of 2nd/3rd bars. I know people are gonna complain how his combo can be deadly, but now every combo is -1 life if applied correctly, i dont see any unbalance here.

    Still i wanna know how’s Jin ST….

  20. Anonymous says:

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    when 12th character come out with AP also. i dont know what to do then

    • Disc says:

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      Does certainly look like Lass being possessed by Kaze’Aze. It’s probably a sign (one I thought would happen) that Ellia will be updated, just like Bermesiah has. Improved graphics for Kaze’Aze? Yes please~

  21. iBlahSNSDx3 says:

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    Hey !! naver blog just update alot of cool stuff
    theres one on lire look-a-like ?
    and now the newest is lass look-a-like ?

    Any can translate it ?

    http://blog.naver.com/gcblog/120111076466

    • Kenzor says:

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      it’s possibly a revamp of kazeaze lass

      • Chromeheart says:

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        Not just Kaze’aze Lass, but Kaze’aze herself, too. That shadow looks like a revamp of the Queen of Darkness. I’m looking forward to the Ellia revamp. Maybe they’ll replace/revamp all those Anmon scouts and guards wandering around as well…

  22. looser2 says:

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    HEY I FOUND A DUNGEON VIDEO of dio guys
    here the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRSeNDGGI7k

  23. Acid says:

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    This quite intesting since grand chase is turning more like elsword i wonder if the skill tree goona change too i wonder what if the 3 characters is goona be a surpise that are not out yet

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